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class="style8" Setting Timecodes

>Published : 15th February 2005

>Asking a potentially embarrassing question...

>When shooting with the DSR-500 on a single camera series, and using the large DV tapes, how do shooters set the timecode on each subsequent tape ?

>Would editors prefer the tapes @ 1hr, then 2hr30, etc. , OR, just keep it sequential (ie, let the timecode continue from 1hr) ?

>Confused...

>Duraid Munajim
Toronto


>Duraid CML

class="style9">>When shooting with the DSR-500 on a single camera series, and using >the large DV tapes, how do shooters set the timecode on each >subsequent tape?

>Duraid,

>Not a bad question at all. In recent days as I've worked on a couple documentaries and some television work I have simply gotten shorter stock or merely not shot past 59 minutes on a piece of stock. If, in a couple of cases, we wound up rolling past the hour on a tape, I would denote that the end of that tape would have redundant timecode for the beginning of the following tape and let the editors deal with it from there.

>The reality is, however, that if you have a show that ends up having more than 24 tapes, you're always going to have redundant timecode, so it will always be a problem to deal with.

>All the best,

>Jay Holben
Director/Director of Photography
Los Angeles, CA


class="style9">>When shooting with the DSR-500 on a single camera series, and using >the large DV tapes, how do shooters set the timecode on each >subsequent tape?

>Editors shouldn't have any trouble with repeated time code as long as it's on different tapes.

>However, there is one situation which I'm not sure about. On a recent documentary I shot over 50 hours on 3 hour DVCAM tapes. So I happily started at 1:00:00:00 on the first tape, 4:00:00:00 on the second tape and so on. But when you come to tape 8 which starts at 22:00:00:00 it will roll over to 00:00:00:00 during the tape!

>So far, I haven't heard any complaints about this and I think I'm OK since there will be no on/off-line or linear tape editing.

>Next time I'll start the first tape at 00:00:00:00 so the 24 hour roll over occurs on a tape change.

>Bruce Douglas, DP
Sao Paulo, Brazil


class="style9">>Would editors prefer the tapes @ 1hr, then 2hr30, etc. , OR, just keep it >sequential (i.e. let the timecode continue from 1hr)

>I always take questions like that to the editors, as they'll be the ones to make sense of it all.

>Art Adams, DP [film|hidef|video]
San Francisco Bay Area - "Silicon Valley"
http://www.artadams.net/


>Record-run timecode (starting at 00:00:00 on each tape) should be fine as long as you label and log your tapes carefully. That way you'll never have to worry about rolling over into a 25th hour.

>I'm currently shooting a Mini-DV doc (tapes run 1:02:00) and making the transcribers window dubs on DVD’s that run 1:00:20. So I always change tapes before 1:00:00. So far, no problems. (I've actually got a 10-second leeway as well, because I always shoot the first 10 sec of my originals with the lens capped.)

>On one occasion I had to use LP speed to get 2 continuous hrs on one tape. So in my numbering scheme I allowed for cloning those LP originals onto two SP tapes back home... which then became my "originals." No problems there, either.

>Dan Drasin
Producer/DP
Marin County, CA