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Tone With Cold Look
I am shooting a TVC where I want to keep the exterior scenes
looking cool as it will be raining courtesy of a rain machine
however I would like to retain some acceptable skin tone(
not warm but not cold/blue either). I am thinking of shooting
this on 5248(100t)with no correction and just adding a 81ef
and/or an lld filter. The 81ef (+62 mired shift,) brings the
3200k rating to 4000k. The forecast is for overcast weather
which I believe is about 6000-6500k. The TVC will be posted
My question is: am I on the right track? Any suggestions/thoughts
appreciated. The other question is : is it easier to shoot
this clean(ie: correct colour temp) and try to achieve look
in post or is it better to help with the look in the field
on the original neg? Through all this it would be great to
still have some colours looking good (i.e. red).
I thought is to add an enhancer to this. Would an enhancer
work against the cool image?
How about lighting the actor/actress with some tungsten fill,
if that was too warm throw 1/4 or 1/2 CTB on. This would leave
you subject with more of a proper skin tone wile throwing
your back round to the colder side.
You will get nice cold flesh tones with 81EF-filter and Tungsten
balance film. You can shoot without filter and correct the
blue when you transfer the film to video, but I prefire the
look you get with 81EF-filter.
Its better to help the look in the right direction in the
field on the original neg.
Yes, it is better to help the look as much in camera as you
can. The 81ef as has been noted, will be a good choice. It
will render the overall tonality as cool, without allowing
the excess UV that has a tendency to overexpose the blue layer
creating a purplish skin tone and shadows. The lld will be
ok too, but I think the 81ef will be closer to the look you
envision, especially with the projected overcast conditions.
Ed Colman, President SuperDailies, Inc.
Cinematographer Supervised Video Dailies
The 85C filter is generally nice in these situations, it will
correct 5500k to 3800k and will have a much better UV cut-off
(380 nm) than the 81 series filters, which as "light
balancing" rather than "color correcting" filters
have none to speak of.
You could use an 81EF or even a lighter 81 in combination
with a UV or LLD as well.
ICG, New York
Thank you to all who replied.
Some good notes and suggestions. A couple of replies mentioned
the effect of UV light when shooting in this scenario. That’s
got me wondering.
Anymore info on UV light would be great...i.e. : how to measure
the effect of UV?
>Thankyou to all who replied.
Some good notes and suggestions. A >couple of replies mentioned
the effect of UV light when shooting in this >scenario. That’s
got me wondering. Anymore info on UV light would be >great...i.e.
: how to measure the effect of UV?
You could use a UV meter, but there really isn't any reason
to in this situation. UV isn't visible light but can cause
visible effects with film stocks. The effects can be a murky
haziness or color anomalies.
Tungsten balanced film is much more sensitive to UV than daylight
balanced film. A UV filter has no detrimental effect since
it is only filtering invisible light, so there is no reason
not to use one when you can.
ICG, New York