I think this subject has been covered before but I cant find it in the
archives and hope someone can lead Me in the right direction. I am about
to shoot a small feature and one of the gags is that it is supposed to
be during a very hot summer and we need to get that shimmering heat effect.
Needless to say that at this time of year in Canada it is not going to
happen naturally so we will have to produce the effect in camera. A flame
bar below the lens has been suggested but I would like to know if any
other working ideas are out there?
Guy Paterson
Gaffer de jour
I've used a few methods to get this effect. A Blond or Mighty faced up
in front of the lens, a Coleman propane stove w/ 2 burners (no flame)
set the long way just at the bottom frame line, and the heat from the
"festering" charcoal in a Weber grill.
A longer lens always helps as well.
Jack Cummings
Buffalo/DP
Guy :
I have had to accomplish this effect in very close quarters before where
flames/heat were prohibitive. We duplicated the shimmering heat effect
using high pressure helium. We used one of the ~ 5' tall canisters with
the appropriate regulators attached. We had a 50' high pressure hose line
connected to the regulator, and on the "business end" we had
a simple on/off valve.
Now what you have to do, to spread the effect across your entire frame,
is to fashion a diffuser nozzle. We made a very simple inverted triangle
box out of foamcore ( think V ), the nozzle was connected to the "southern"
end of the V. We placed this under the lens about 4 feet in front of the
camera and it worked like a charm.
One caveat, however. The high rate of flow can be VERY loud, so if you
are in an enclosed area, communication can be hampered and ear protection
is advised. Good luck and no sucking on the hose between takes.
John Sheeren
Operator/AC
Houston, Texas
One easy portable way to go is to use a few cans of sterno (jellied alcohol
in cans used for heating food trays in buffets and such) on a board right
below and in front of lens. Advantage is nearly colourless, smokeless
flame, portability, ease of extinguishing, relatively safe.
Not as much poop as a flame bar but not as much fuss either (no propane
container, hoses, etc).
If you need to do a lot of these shots, you might consider buying a lot
of cans at Costco - they will not last all that long. Cheap and easy to
test, however.
Mark Weingartner
LA based
Editing can do it easily, safe, no flames, gas, loud sounds, etc. Definitely
an easy post maneuver so you can concentrate on making nice pictures.
Walter Graff
Producer, Director, Creative Director, Cinematographer
HellGate Pictures, Inc.
BlueSky, LLC
www.film-and-video.com
>any other working ideas are
out there?
I've always used a couple cans of sterno just under the lens. Have a guy
hold them with a pair of fireplace gloves and wiggle them around a bit.
Can't get much easier than that.
Hope this helps...
Ken Glassing
LA Based
OP/dp
On "Sega Howdedodat!" we used flamebars in front of the lens
for every shot, sometimes 2 at staggered distances.
I really don't think anything else looks like it.
http://www.gboyle.co.uk/HOW-qt.htm
Actually not EVERY shot
Cheers
Geoff Boyle FBKS
Director of Photography
EU Based
www.cinematography.net
Geoff Boyle wrote :
>On "Sega Howdedodat!"
we used flamebars in front of the lens for every >shot, sometimes
2 at staggered distances. I really don't think anything >else
looks like it.
What's cool (or hot) about your method there is how it works with the
wides. I've gotten great results with Sterno on longer lenses, but wide
angle is tough, with any kind of wind very tough unless you want to set
up windbreaks with flags etc etc.
Sam Wells
Geoff Boyle wrote :
>On "Sega Howdedodat!"
we used flamebars in front of the lens for every >shot, sometimes
2 at staggered distances.
Recently did just that on a table top food shot, but a bit unnerving with
flame bars pretty close to the camera in a modest sized studio.
That roll was first up in telecine while I was out getting some rocket
fuel and when I came back the colorist (new, young and a bit inexperienced
but pretty good) had this really worried look on his face. "Ah, something
is going on here, I don't know if it's the film or the Rank." I explained
the heat wave thing and he was much relieved. Seems like the effect worked
pretty good.
Mike Evans
DOP i25productions, inc.
I've done it w/ an electric hot plate below the lens.
Bill Berner
Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
>On "Sega Howdedodat!"
we used flamebars in front of the lens for every >shot, sometimes
2 at staggered distances.
I really don't think anything else looks like it.
Geoff, I really like your light in this commercial. I’m about to
shoot a video clip which has a sequence of western, I was asked by the
director to recreate this kind of light in a studio. I’d like you
to tell me specifically how do you get this kind of warm and hot atmosphere,
apart from the heat waves that I’ve used before... was the color
get it in spirit transfer or ambient light or filter, can you tell me
if you remember about key lights, your work with mirrors, exposition,
all you can to get same results...and to all CML’s that can help
in this way all welcome!!!
Best
Manuel Bullrich DP
Argentina. Bs As
Manuel Bullrich
>Geoff I really like your light
in this commercial. I’m about to shoot a >video clip
which has a sequence of western, I was asked by the director
>to recreate this kind of light in a studio.
First of all you shoot on a stock that isn't available anymore Agfa.
No, seriously a lot of the look come deliberately overexposing highlights,
really walloping the level down on the stock! expose for the shadows and
to hell with the highlights!
We also printed this commercial, just the selected takes, and telecined
from the print.
Contrast levels that scare you to death are important, if you're not panicking
when you shoot you haven't taken it far enough.
This was Ursa not a Spirit.
Heavy use of Polas and NBRA's help as well.
Lack of sleep on this shoot probably helped as well, ie I got to a point
where I'd just go for it, it was the local festa so we finished shooting
around 7pm went to the Festa until, err 3 maybe 4 am and then went on
location at 7am.
Repeat for 6 days and you are in a strange state of mind!
I'm not going to post here what the director did when we set-up the last
shot, suffice to say the he was found in Granada 3 days later and our
grip was found chewing the bathmat the next morning. Hmm, that's not what
it sounds like, it's to do with chemicals.....
Cheers
Geoff Boyle FBKS
Director of Photography
EU Based
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