Moy-Mitchell Base To 150mm Bowl

Greetings everyone,

So far no response to how to adapt a Moy Boss base to a 150mm bowl.

So here are my questions again?

Is a Moy base identical to a Mitchell base?

I need to put a Moy Boss base on a 150 mm bowl.

So far the only adapters, I have seen are either for use on dolly or are not rock solid as the bottom part of the adapter is round, therefore can slip considering the weight of the head and camera. Surely there must be a flat Mitchell base plate or something the like that fits a 150 mm bowl.

I also intend to use a three way levelling head but not in all the circumstances, due to the height as when using a hi-hat.

I would like to know the existing options?

Appreciate your replies, thank you beforehand.

Regards

Emmanuel from Munich

SUYS Emmanuel writes :

>Is a Moy base identical to a Mitchell base?
>I need to put a Moy Boss base on a 150 mm bowl.

I suggest you contact Joe Dunton in London who owns both Mitchell and Moy.

Other contact info is here : http://www.joedunton.co.uk/

He can answer all your questions. He probably has what you need.

Regards, Bill Hogan

Manny writes :

>So far no response to how to adapt a Moy Boss base to a 150mm >bowl. So here are my questions again?
>Is a Moy base identical to a Mitchell base?

Yes.

>I need to put a Moy Boss base on a 150 mm bowl.

Not the best idea.

>So far the only adapters, I have seen are either for use on dolly or are >not rock solid as the bottom part of the adapter is round, therefore can >slip considering the weight of the head and camera.

That's why is not such a good idea.

You can try putting the head directly on the 150mm bowl. If you get a long enough tie down screw it will work. You may need a thin plywood donut or washer. It's been done in pinch when the wrong legs were sent out. It's not the best fix. The only alternative I know is to change the tripod's top plate from 150mm bowl to Mitchell.

>Surely there must be a flat Mitchell base plate or something the like that >fits a 150 mm bowl.

I've never seen one. But I'm sure one can be easily fabricated from existing adaptors.

>I also intend to use a three way levelling head but not in all the >circumstances, due to the height as when using a hi-hat.

Brian Heller
IA 600 DP

Manny writes :

>So far no response to how to adapt a Moy Boss base to a 150mm bowl.

After a second cup of coffee:

The other reason -- aside from slippage, which you know-- why there are no readily available adaptors from Mitchell/Moy to 150mm bowl is that in order to secure the adaptor plate to the Mitchell base of the Moy Head, you would first have to put a bolt or screw in the middle of the adaptor, then you would need to put another bolt or screw into the first bolt or screw to attach the bowl adaptor to the tripod.

Otherwise the adaptor would be slipping around while you tried to put the head on the adaptor and tripod at the same time. I think the simplest solution is to change the tops of the tripods to Mitchell.

Brian Heller
IA 600 DP

Greetings Brian

Brian Heller wrote :

>Otherwise the adaptor would be slipping around while you tried to put >the head on the adaptor and tripod at the same time. I think the >simplest solution is to change the tops of the tripods to Mitchell.

Yes that is what I am actually looking for. Changing the tops. I guess was not fully awake either when I first wrote my query.

Several years ago, whilst on a shoot, we had one set of legs and a hi-hat, all with a 150 mm bowl or Sachtler bowl. We used Sachtler Head and an Arri geared head. However when using the Arri geared head, we somehow had some adapter plate fitting the 150 mm bowl to fix the three way levelling head (Mitchell base) to the tripod and then the geared head on top of it. Now I am looking for that little plate, but I can seem to find that from the few catalog's I have.

I don't feel like adding another set of legs nor changing my existing heads. Also I don't currently have the time to walk in a rental place (not open on Sundays or public holidays, only day off I have so far) to see for myself, the various possibilities.

Why I am asking here.

Regards
Emmanuel from Munich

Manny,

Try Bill Heideman at Willie's Widgets Scottsdale, Arizona USA 480-945-6428

If you can't find an adaptor and if you don't need to use the ball levelling function, then it should be a fairly straight forward project to fabricate an adaptor. It could be a flat plate with a recess for the Mitchell, and a slot for the key way.

Brian Heller
IA 600 DP

Greetings Brian,

Brian Heller wrote :

>If you can't find an adaptor...then it should be a fairly straight forward >project to fabricate an adaptor.

>Or you could buy a riser and take it apart and still be able to use the >riser when you needed it.

Bingo, just found what I was looking for; a riser with and adapter to fit the 150mm bowl, slippage free.

No need to have something fabricated.

Thanks for the hint.

Regards
Emmanuel from Munich